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MarcelG
Netherlands 13.7k posts
 Posted 09/01/10 @ 17:21 - 2596 pageviews Show MarcelG's profile Reply with Quote  ¤ 
A couple of years ago a gigabyte was a lot of data.
The first PC I started using (besides the Sharp MZ-721) was the Tulip Compact 2, with a whopping 20 MB of harddisk space.

Today I was making backups to my external harddisk, and decided to see how much storage my main system has.

  • 2x320 GB in a stripeset with 2 volumes, one 97.6 GB system partition and one 498 GB data partition.
  • 1x750 GB (698 real GB) in an external eSata volume, for backups of the data, my main system and my wife's laptop
  • 1x60 GB (55.9 real GB) 2.5" USB2 harddisk, for the occasional data transfer
  • 1x16 GB (14.9 real GB) OCZ Rally2 Truecrypt encrypted memorystick, for all my data at work.
  • 2x4GB SHDC for my camera's
  • 1x4GB data transfer stick, unencrypted.
Making a whopping total of: 1478 GB, or 1,334 real terabytes.
[img]/uploaded/18/1/my_harddisks_2010january.png[/img]
Not an awful lot for today's standards, but it's just 70.476 times as much as I started off with back in 1987! [lol]

Now, the pollquestion is : how much storage do you use with your main system ?
(Inluding NAS, backupdisks and memory sticks, not including (backup) DVD's/CD's and online (non local) storage etc)

Options:

 Less than 100 GB
 100 - 500 GB
 500GB - 1 TB
 1 - 2 TB
 2 - 3 TB
 3 - 4 TB
 More than 4 TB
HuwR
 
United Kingdom 448 posts
 Posted 09/01/10 @ 20:40 Show HuwR's profile Reply with Quote  #1 
first computer I used didn't even have a hard drive [:D] it was a HP9816 and had twin floppy drives, 256Kb of ram and an 8MHz processor and cost about $5000 back in the early 80's

http://www.old-computers.com/M../..p?c=879&st=1
sr_erick
 
USA 535 posts
 Posted 10/01/10 @ 08:32 Show sr_erick's profile Reply with Quote  #2 
On my main workstation I have a 1 TB mirrored set of disks for OS and data (separate partitions) and a 500 GB disk used for automatic backups. Pretty basic and simple setup. Important data from my OS volume backs up the backup disk automatically every night, as well as remotely to one of my servers in the CO at work. So, basically...I have four copies of my important data. Yes, I take backup critically.
wauske
 
Netherlands 3k posts
 Posted 10/01/10 @ 09:39 Show wauske's profile Reply with Quote  #3 
Lol, I went from 800+GB's on my previous system to 60+320GB (half of the 320 is used for backup) on my current system :D

I've been looking into buying a NAS but my current use is about 60% so why would I?
MarcelG
 
Netherlands 13.7k posts
 Posted 10/01/10 @ 16:04 Show MarcelG's profile Reply with Quote  #4 
Huw, I win in terms of low-specs: my first computer was the Sharp MZ 721 : http://www.old-computers.com/M../..sp?st=1&c=87 [:-/]
4 MHz, 64 kb RAM, 1 cassette tape drive for storage.
A verrrry nifty device.
quote :
Originally posted by sr_erick on 10/01/10 @ 08:32
Yes, I take backup critically.
That's the understatement of the year.... [lol]

Wauske, you downgraded your storage space?! Did you delete all your anime?
wauske
 
Netherlands 3k posts
 Posted 10/01/10 @ 22:46 Show wauske's profile Reply with Quote  #5 
Everything I watched yes, still have some unwatched on a disk which is in one of the moving boxes though. Since that's not connected I though it didn't count :P
If it did then I'd be well over a terabyte :D
HuwR
 
United Kingdom 448 posts
 Posted 10/01/10 @ 23:36 (Edited @ 23:37) Show HuwR's profile Reply with Quote  #6 
I'm a complete dumbo, the first computer I used was actually a sinclair zx-81 got one for my 18th birthday present, I completely forgot about that, followed by a spectrum, I then started work which is when I used the HP 9816. I think I may even still have my spectrum in the loft somewhere
MarcelG
 
Netherlands 13.7k posts
 Posted 11/01/10 @ 11:06 Show MarcelG's profile Reply with Quote  #7 
[:(] Grr, indeed you win; the ZX81 predates the Sharp MZ721 by one year. [:p]
Still funny to see by the way that Sharp called the MZ721 the high-performance model with an inbuild data recorder. [lol]
It seems I was a bit younger than you when I started with computers. I guess I was 7 or 8 when I started with the MZ721, and 10 when I got the Tulip Compact II (with MSDOS! [good])

@Wauske ; you're actually deleting everything you've already watched? That's not the collectors spirit is it? [:D]

I'm wondering when Boredcat will reply here ; if I'm not mistaking he's got well over 4TB in his homeserver system alone, plus some TB's in his media center.

boredcat
 
Netherlands 192 posts
 Posted 11/01/10 @ 12:32 Show boredcat's profile Reply with Quote  #8 
I have over 4 TB at home.

Windows Media Center (Vista x64 Utlimate, will be upgraded to Win 7) : 1 TB
Laptop (Windows 7 x64 Ultimate) : 320 GB
Windows Home Server : 3.98 TB

an 500 GB external disk. Also some old systems (not in use anymore) with a total of 750 GB.

So 1 TB + 4 TB + 320 GB + 500 GB + 750 GB = 5,57 TB

And still having storage issue.;-)
MarcelG
 
Netherlands 13.7k posts
 Posted 11/01/10 @ 12:34 Show MarcelG's profile Reply with Quote  #9 
OMG, 5.57 TB! [mylord]
That's not a storage problem, that's a download addiction! [8D]
HuwR
 
United Kingdom 448 posts
 Posted 11/01/10 @ 17:10 Show HuwR's profile Reply with Quote  #10 
the last time I asked, my brother had > 10TB of disc space, he is a 3D animator so needs a huge amount of disk space to store stuff, no idea how much he has now as that was probably 6-12 months ago.

I didn't get into computing until late as we had no access to computers at school, I think my school gotthere first computer (commodore pet I think) about 1 month before I left, a shame really as I'm pretty sure had we had computers and programming at school I may have found it a lot more interesting and not quit before going to uni.
wauske
 
Netherlands 3k posts
 Posted 11/01/10 @ 18:18 Show wauske's profile Reply with Quote  #11 
quote :
Originally posted by MarcelG on 11/01/10 @ 11:06
@Wauske ; you're actually deleting everything you've already watched? That's not the collectors spirit is it? [:D]


Collecting is not the same as downloading, not by a long shot :D
Everything I bought is still here so no problems there :P
...
boredcat
 
Netherlands 192 posts
 Posted 11/01/10 @ 20:00 Show boredcat's profile Reply with Quote  #12 
Just checked my download status :

Since 9-8-2009 13:22
Download : 3974,74 GB
Upload : 652,45 GB

This is the downside of a 100/100 connection..
MarcelG
 
Netherlands 13.7k posts
 Posted 11/01/10 @ 20:59 Show MarcelG's profile Reply with Quote  #13 
quote :
Originally posted by HuwR on 11/01/10 @ 17:10
the last time I asked, my brother had > 10TB of disc space, he is a 3D animator so needs a huge amount of disk space to store stuff, no idea how much he has now as that was probably 6-12 months ago.

3D rendering and especially animations indeed take up quite a lot of space, especially the raw uncompressed stuff. I know that when I used my PCI TV card (years ago) it consumed 4GB of diskspace per recorded hour in the simple low res PAL resolution. At HDTV resolutions, even without audio in it, uncompressed animations are hundreds of GB an hour.

quote :
Originally posted by wauske on 11/01/10 @ 18:18
{....}


Collecting is not the same as downloading, not by a long shot :D
Everything I bought is still here so no problems there :P
Mmmm, true again.

@Boredcat ; that's a utilization of almost nothing! [:)]
Let's assume a 100% utilization 100 MBit/sec does means a throughput of 10 megabyte per second.
That's 36.000 megabytes per hour, or 864.000 megabytes (=843 GB) per day.
So, that's just 5 days of downloading at 100% utilization. [;)]
E-life
 
Netherlands 6.4k posts
 Posted 12/01/10 @ 03:02 Show E-life's profile Reply with Quote  #14 
at my old job I did video editting in HD, can't remember the excact sizes of files, but short video's in uncompressed format took easily 2-3gig (and thats short as in 20 seconds).

On my home system I have 1 terrabyte space, 200 gigabytes of that is used on music if I am not mistaken, cant access the system at the moment.

on this laptop I have 500 gig, and dont really need more. I mainly do some programming and photoshop at the moment, so its not that hard on my diskdrive.
boredcat
 
Netherlands 192 posts
 Posted 12/01/10 @ 08:44 Show boredcat's profile Reply with Quote  #15 
I still needed a good backup disk, first thought of an 1.5 TB disk with a sharkoon disk bay. But now I think I go for this one

[img]http://www.aldi.nl/OFFER_NL_SA/OFFER_02/BILD02K.JPG[/img].
1.5 TB for €99,99, it looks like it has a eSATA connector.
[IMG]http://www.speedtest.net/result/523712027.png[/IMG]
MarcelG
 
Netherlands 13.7k posts
 Posted 12/01/10 @ 11:09 Show MarcelG's profile Reply with Quote  #16 
quote :
Originally posted by E-life on 12/01/10 @ 03:02
at my old job I did video editting in HD, can't remember the excact sizes of files, but short video's in uncompressed format took easily 2-3gig (and thats short as in 20 seconds).
I somewhere read that uncompressed HDTV footage can consume up to 700 GB per hour, so 2-3GB per 20 seconds indeed could be right.

@Boredcat ; that disk looks like a bargain.
The cheapest 1.5TB disk I can find at the moment is the Seagate Barracuda LP ST31500541AS (Bulk) for € 89,90, but that one doesn't come in an external case.
MarcelG
 
Netherlands 13.7k posts
 Posted 22/01/10 @ 21:36 (Edited 23/02/10 @ 17:02) Show MarcelG's profile Reply with Quote  #17 
Today I expanded my system with a Samsung EcoGreen F2 EG HD154U.
I ran out of diskspace in just a matter of days .... this morning I had only 1.2 GB free. [:-no] Not good....

I had to buy the 1.5 TB Samsung Story Station to obtain this disk, as no shop in Weert sells internal disks at reasonable prices....one shop dared to ask € 100 for a 1 TB disk....
Now I paid 'just' € 99 for this 1.5 TB disk, and it even comes with a spare USB2 case. [:p]
BTW, ofcourse it's not 1.5TB but 1.500.299.390.976 bytes, which is 1.36 TB in real terabytes.
In other words: I just doubled my storage space. [:)]

- edit 23-2-2010 -

Mmm, it's been a month since I installed the 1.5TB disk....and here's the current status of it.
[img]/uploaded/18/2/disksa89shAS8.png[/img]

I think I'm doing something wrong here. [:p]
Krypt
 
Netherlands 583 posts
 Posted 24/02/10 @ 07:35 Show Krypt's profile Reply with Quote  #18 
I've got a 1TB NAS which stores most of my crap. But now MarcelG has access to is (at last!) I think he will also store some movies on that thing. I'm planning to add another WD Green 1.5TB of 2TB to that NAS just for movies and series :)

And besides that I've got the following:
1x 250GB 2.5" disk
1x 160GB 2.5" disk
1x 30GB 2.5" disk (stores VM images at work)
2x 200GB in "main" system
1x 80GB in "main" system
1x 120GB in system of my wife
1x 80GB in laptop of my wife
1x 200GB spare SATA disk

So the grand total is 2320GB for now
-jos-
 
Netherlands 5.8k posts
 Posted 24/02/10 @ 11:36 Show -jos-'s profile Reply with Quote  #19 
60GB Laptop HD
200GB external HD
120GB broken PC HD
2TB NAS HD
HuwR
 
United Kingdom 448 posts
 Posted 24/02/10 @ 20:52 Show HuwR's profile Reply with Quote  #20 
just upgraded my NAS to 2TB as well
PacificNorthWest
 
USA 414 posts
 Posted 25/02/10 @ 20:57 Show PacificNorthWest's profile Reply with Quote  #21 
Its getting a little crowded in my desktop. (using XP SP2)
I'd like to install a new bigger internal drive.
Can you recommend an internal 500 GB or bigger that will provide good speed, low noise and reliability?

Here's where its at now:
[img]http://www.familybynet.net/oddsnends/diskspace_1.jpg[/img]

My first computer was a TI99 4A - $100 USD - used an RS232 connection to a small black and white TV and had a cassette tape storage drive.
http://www.old-computers.com/m../..p?st=1&c=236
MarcelG
 
Netherlands 13.7k posts
 Posted 26/02/10 @ 14:11 Show MarcelG's profile Reply with Quote  #22 
Rich, I have been very happy with the Seagate Barracuda series of harddisks ; good speed, good noise cancellation.
I've got 2 320GB Barracudas in a stripeset, and 1 750GB Barracuda as a backupdisk.

Here's a 500GB Barracuda on eBay for just over 50 bucks : http://cgi.ebay.com/SEAGATE-50../..em48398c680d

Another good disk is the Samsung Spinpoint F1 ; one terabyte for just $ 80: http://cgi.ebay.com/Samsung-Sp../..em5d27d18b79
golfmann
 
USA 212 posts
 Posted 26/02/10 @ 15:53 (Edited @ 15:55) Show golfmann's profile Reply with Quote  #23 
TANDY 486 AT clone - 1986
10 meg
4/8Mhz (TURBO!) [:P]
Telnet BBS and the slowest modem since the wheel was invented.
ONLY good thing about that comp was it had an air filter intake that you could take out and wash clean (aluminum)
WHY doesn't somebody still do that?
PacificNorthWest
 
USA 414 posts
 Posted 26/02/10 @ 17:56 Show PacificNorthWest's profile Reply with Quote  #24 
Good leads, thank you Marcel.
Both the Seagate and the Samsung have good reviews.
The newer F3 model Samsung has the best ratings so far.
Ebay's Samsung is refurbished and the older model - I can get the new model new locally from a California company calle Newegg (I've bought from them for years). Price is about the same when shipping is included.
Samsung ratings: http://www.newegg.com/Product/../..E16822152185
Seagate reviews: http://www.newegg.com/Product/../..E16822148395
Thanks again for the leads - there's so many drives out there it's hard to determine which one might be best.
[img]http://www.familybynet.net/signatures/current_sig.jpg[/img] Hometown Website
MarcelG
 
Netherlands 13.7k posts
 Posted 28/02/10 @ 15:57 Show MarcelG's profile Reply with Quote  #25 
I'd certainly go for the F3, but that's because I already have a really fast stripeset for the OS and the apps, and I only need to have quiet and affordable storage.
The Barracuda will be a bit faster than the F3, but just a bit.
PacificNorthWest
 
USA 414 posts
 Posted 06/03/10 @ 16:54 Show PacificNorthWest's profile Reply with Quote  #26 
Okay - I ordered the F3, got it and installed it.
My two year old desktop (on the floor) was already setup with a Sata drive and XP OS.
So, the install was simple. The only thing I had to buy was a data cable.
XP recognized the drive. I used Adonis True Image to partition it.

I backed up the entire primary drive during lunch. The F3 is FAST. There is no detectable additional noise.
And the landscape looks endless. . .
Time will tell how well it performs.
[:)]
MarcelG
 
Netherlands 13.7k posts
 Posted 06/03/10 @ 19:54 Show MarcelG's profile Reply with Quote  #27 
[good] Sounds like a good buy!
MarcelG
 
Netherlands 13.7k posts
 Posted 12/04/10 @ 20:37 Show MarcelG's profile Reply with Quote  #28 
Whoops....I think I need an additional disk. Digitzing my movie collection takes up more space than I thought. [:)]
[img]/uploaded/18/4/storage_1.5tbalmostfullwhoops.png[/img]
Jezmeister
 
United Kingdom 1.6k posts
 Posted 13/04/10 @ 13:24 Show Jezmeister's profile Reply with Quote  #29 
Ya know, I still survive with one 200GB hdd and one 120GB hdd...
MarcelG
 
Netherlands 13.7k posts
 Posted 13/04/10 @ 14:27 Show MarcelG's profile Reply with Quote  #30 
quote :
Originally posted by Jezmeister on 13/04/10 @ 13:24
Ya know, I still survive with one 200GB hdd and one 120GB hdd...
Man, that's just enough for my photos and my music....[oO]
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